Lol, so now you’re demanding proof of empathy towards people who ripped their music off, from people who didn’t sue them?
I think your salt is driven by bitterness that is mostly misdirected.
The record companies did that to everyone they could find taking anything they had the rights to.
But Metallica were famous and visible, and complained that people were just taking their music without paying for it.
They aren’t saints, but it sure is stretch to paint them as the villans in this situation.
As @brainio says, all of this was new at the time and calling a share a “lost sale” is as ridiculous a position as saying a radio play is millions of lost sales. Bankrupting people for leaving their computer on too long is especially sick when there are no direct losses.
I get it, you don’t have any empathy for their victims. I’d have empathy for you if you accidentally left your computer on with a torrent going you might have forgotten about and some corporate ghouls came after you. Don’t pretend you’ve never done anything vaguely naughty either.
I have empathy for the victims of excessive bullshit by the record companies. I have empathy for the bands that got ripped off by the record companies. I have empathy for bands who saw their chances of making decent money disappear as people just took their music without paying.
Heck, I even have empathy for the people who did well, but were pissed off that people just took their stuff without paying. It’s not like being one of the lucky ones means you have no right to be angry if people just take stuff without paying. The reason more people are taking your stuff, is that you made stuff that lots of people like.
As for your bitter crusade that’s mostly targeting the wrong people.
EDIT: I suppose given who I’m talking to that I should note that this:
I have empathy for the victims of excessive bullshit by the record companies.
Refers to the people who the record companies tried to hold excessively accountable for the stuff they took.
Don’t put a change in technology affecting income onto Napster users. Look at the pittance being paid out now with the legal solutions to digital music being effectively free to replicate and transmit. Napster users didn’t do that, that’s called evolution.
I have empathy for all of the above too. I just judge an inevitable reduction in income via technological change as being in an entirely different category from bankrupting people, especially when part of said income was based on illegal price fixing.
You don’t. That’s cool, you do you.
I don’t remember Metallica doing that. They sued Napster.
But hey, if you can’t help but dishonestly apportion blame, then that’s cool, you do you.
It’s OK, I get that you were angered by how things happened, and that Metallica has been brought up in a discussion here, so they become the focus again.
Try updating your firmware, maybe run memtest or something.
Maybe try letting go of the salt that is associated with who you saw at the time, rather than who was the driving force behind bankrupting people.
The record companies did that to fans of any band they had the rights to.
And, yes, technoogy change can obsolete business models.
But that doesn’t mean it’s evil to be angry if the technology obsoletes all locks, and people just take everying in your safe.
You view Metallica as helpless observers and claim they didn’t see a penny of any awards. I highly doubt this.
So we’re going to blame every band that made it big? Or just the ones who made their annoyance known?
I’m not saying they had zero influence on anything, but would the record companies have stopped because Metallica complained?
No.
Did Metallica have a right to be annoyed that people were taking their stuff?
Yes.
I mean, I’m really struggling be really angry with Metallica.
I’m just trying to nail down exactly what should drive my rage?
That people who had a legitimate greviance, but didn’t sue their fans, only the company that helped people take their stuff without paying, didn’t do more to stop other people who were also losing money because of what was happening, from taking excessive action?
um, ok, righto, I guess, but in things that happened here that make me angry, I’m really struggling to rage against Metallica.
But, hey, you do you!
You say “salty” and “rage” when I just think they should be a bit sorry for what happened to those people. There are lots of knob ends in the world, another couple doesn’t make a dent in things.
Why Metallica in particular? Because they complained about people taking their music without paying, and sued napster?
Because you saw and heard them?
Is that why you single them out, but say nothing about every other signed artist in the world? It’s not like you raise this issue any time a band who was around at the time is mentioned.
I mean, it’s OK, I can understand why seeing Metallica makes you think of all that stuff.
I’m over it, they’re over it, seems like most people are over it. But it’s OK if you’re not.
Rick Beato interview with Kirk Hammett.
Sure is nice to get to hear him without Lars and James jumping in all the time.
This other semi-retired individual seems like a really nice guy too:
I didn’t realize you’d started working for Malibal!
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I note you seem to have unbanneded Liechtenstein, which is nice.
Lol, I spoke too soon!
Despite the good news, Christian continued talking to us like dirt in the private chat, so we asked him if he was the owner of 9Elements, because an employee would never talk to a customer like this, and he confirmed he was. Then we said, “We can tell because owners usually aren’t the best at customer service.” To which he replied, “I understand.”
And then, within just a couple of minutes and without any warning, after having invested two months into trying to work with them and just 15 minutes after Max figured out how to read and write to the chip, Christian removed us from the Slack channel we were invited to and essentially told us to get lost. We even had to remind him that he still had our laptop, and we wanted it back.
Due to this experience with 9Elements, we banned the entire country of Germany for life.
Due to this experience with 3MDeb, we banned the entire country of Poland for life.
Due to this experience with Matt DeVillier, we banned the entire state of Maryland for life.
Be careful or Australia might find itself replacing Lichtenstein!
Lol, wait till you check your email!
I heard even North Korea have sent something to get on the naughty/safe away from that kind of craycray list.
You’ve lost me with this detour, we were on the subject of kindly old men with skeletons in their pasts. Some more than others.
Oh, don’t be shy now. Not many people can survive with that kind of salt concentration level.
Banning the whole world was epic, but then also banning the chip makers on top of that was a master stroke!